by CJ | Jun 4, 2017 | Casino Sessions, Podcast
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Casino: Treasury Brisbane
$400 buy in
1/2 table left side
SL1 (my favourite)
1 player (me)
3V set and 2V set
Couldn’t get out last week. Work was to much and couldn’t even spare 1 hour again.
Was very grateful that when I arrived there was no one at the table. Perfect.
I started slow to warm up.
Started with a 3 x DP progression $10 $20 $30 and $44 inside working 2 hits and down to $6 six and eight and press up and out from there.
Took an initial beating down $150, zagged when I should have zigged.
I had 3 PSO out of 11 hands.
The others of note. 22, 14, 12, 16
Then had my biggest roll I’ve ever done. 41 rolls. No one else at the table to enjoy it with me. Worked up from $6 six and eight to getting $50 for $1 on the 5 and 9
10, 6, 6, 5, 8, 5, 10
6, 8, 9, 6
7, 5, 5
8, 4, 9, 10, 5, 6, 5, 10, 9, 9, 5, 3, 5, 3, 5, 4, 4, 3, 9, 6, 2, 9, 9, 11, 3, 10, 7
I actually didn’t know what press to after that so left it at same bet to not distract myself.
Had a pile of chip vomit in front of me after that hand. I asked for a 2 min break to clean up my rack.
Had a good chat to dealers today. Before the most senior box man showed up. He’s so sour I could get more out of a lemon. Conversation stopper.
He turns his nose up at anyone that sets the dice and tries to have a controlled shot. But he tolerates until you don’t hit the back wall.
I couldn’t care less what he thinks.
I’m there to make money, and that’s what I’m going to strive to do.
I asked if the table was going to be removed. And they didn’t think so in the short term.
However since they moved the table it’s own room it’s done even less business than when it was on the main floor.
They really have set it up for failure.
I suggested the golden arm comp again and they said it would never get off the ground because it required work from the marketing dept. for a game that is only open small hours and has low profit turnover.
Oh well I’ll just keep playing for as long as I can.
Had to get back to work so had to stop just as 2 new players joined in.
Coloured out $626 (+$226) in 1 hour
by CJ | May 20, 2017 | Casino Sessions, Podcast
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Casino : Treasury Brisbane
$400 buy in
1/2 table right side
SR6 (my nemesis)
5 players (4 regulars and me)
3V set
Couldn’t get out last week. Work was to much and couldn’t even spare 1 hour again.
I was shocked to arrive and find 6 players half table full. I refuse to squeeze in as I myself like room.
I waited and watched for 1 hour. Mistake #1. Finally got a spot , stuck in the hook near the dealer. My nemesis spot. Mistake #2. But my time was up already and had to get back to work.
I wasn’t going without throwing the dice. Mistake #3.
Had to wait some more for the dice.
By the time I got to shoot I was not in a state to shoot.
$66 inside working on the come out, never got to regress. Mistake #4
First hand.
4, 6, 3, 11, 7
Stuck around for a second hand
10, 7
Got knocked off $75 DP trying to come back fast. Mistake #5.
Decided I was late enough. And had my share of mistakes, so quit for the day. Lessons have been learned.
Time pressure got me on throw and betting.
Coloured out $135 (-$265) in 30 mins
by CJ | May 6, 2017 | Casino Sessions, Podcast
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Casino: Treasury Brisbane
$400 buy in
1/2 table left side
SL2 and SL1
5 players (4 regulars and me)
3V set
Couldn’t get out last week. Work was to much and couldn’t even spare 1 hour.
Was really looking forward to today. I was over my nerves mostly from last week.
Started at the table with just one regular today. He’d had a bad run and basically passed the dice straight to me.
Got to shoot 7 times today. Which was nice.
13 and 14 were my longest throws. But I made money on each of them except for one PSO.
Followed a $66 inside working on the come out with my DP negative and positive progression on my own roles. Regress to $22 inside after 2 hits, then press up from there.
With the DP 3 play and $12 inside for other shooters.
This play seems to paying off for me.
Regression is a beautiful thing.
I have no problems making the dealers work for me.
No one else regresses. So I do get some strange looks.
I mentioned to the dealers about the golden arm comp that is in the USA.
They had no idea what I was talking about.
I emailed casino management this week with the idea to hold the golden arm comp in Australia. It would be great for craps exposure and getting more people to the game. No response yet.
Coloured out $605 (+$205) in 1 hour
by CJ | Apr 22, 2017 | Casino Sessions
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Casino : Treasury Brisbane
$400 buy in
1/2 table right side
SR1
5 players (4 regulars and me)
3V set
It’s been ages (4 weeks) since I’ve last slung the dice at casino.
I was pleasantly surprised my casino still had their craps table. They are still threatening to close it.
Between tropical cyclones and then floods and then public holidays and then family commitments. I felt like a newbie again sidling up to the table. To the point were my nerves had come back. Hands shaking level of nerves.
I decided to keep it simple today to break the nerves.
Followed a $44 inside working on the come out with my DP negative and positive progression on my own roles. Regress to $22 inside after 2 hits, then press up from there.
With the DP 3 play and $22 inside working on comeout for other shooters.
Everything went to plan today which was nice.
Being at SR1 agrees with me. Used a 3V, 3 finger parr style toss, aimed for around 4cm from the back wall.
Made one point and had a 14 roll hand.
8, 4, 6, 9, 10, 8
6, 2, 3, 10, 8, 8, 8, 9, 7
Only time for one throw. On my next throw I was going to try a low and slow toss to roll to the wall.
The other shooters were good to me. So no time or need to have another shot.
My throw was uuuggghhhhlllly so I was really hoping to get another shot in to see if I could steady my nerves. Oh well next week. And some much needed practice required.
Coloured out $556 (+$156) in 1 hour
by CJ | Mar 29, 2017 | Casino Sessions
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Casino: Treasury
$300 buy in
1/2 table left side
SO
4 players (3 regulars and me)
3V set
Stuck with my $66 inside working on the come out with my DP negative and positive progression on my own roles.
With the DP 3 play and $22 inside working on comeout for other shooters.
Shot myself in the foot with CO 7 twice on two separate hands.
I did have a 32 hand (my best to date is 34) which was good. But had sevens in the middle with the WOTCO knocked off my accumulated bets each time. Oops.
I think I’ll revise my WOTCO to only beginning of the hand and not in between points.
One regular player hit 4 horns in row and 2 players had big money on it. The $500 chips were flowing out to those guys and the box wasn’t happy.
He told the shooter after the hand that those lucky dice have been marked for removal and new dice will be used next shift.
I thought this was strange to pull dice because a couple of people made some big bets on the horn and won. But I guess they can do whatever they like.
Those 2 guys were smart and walked straight after that hand. I’m sure they have lost thousands so the small recovery actually reinforces to them to keep coming back each week to lose more again.
I don’t know why the casino personnel can’t see that overall these guys are the casinos best customers. They have their player cards in the system and know what they spend and take off the table. I know just from watching them in the short time that I’m there, that they spend big each week and since I’ve been playing they usually don’t win. I also know from listening to them banter with the dealers that they go back and play over the weekend.
What was interesting was that my DP 3 play and the WOTCO was affecting the betting of the others. They would sit out my rolls and couldn’t work out what I was doing and even after my 32 roll hand which was the biggest of the hour. They didn’t recognise it because their standard betting patterns were not followed.
Bad news, I got lost in my progression after my 32 hand, as I had chips everywhere since I wasn’t stacking them and it looked like chip vomit in front of me. I really need to rack my chips better. I would have made another $100 if I had of followed my progression properly. Lesson learned.
Good news, that after one and a half years (26.5 hours) of casino play after becoming a student of Craps I’m finally in the black by $53 overall.
While that’s a very bad return on the $7,100 I’ve put through the table over that time. I’ve learned so much about the game and the people that run it, and play it that I feel I’m in a good place now with my game.
I just hope next week there is still a table in the casino to play on.
Coloured out $359 (+$59) in 1 hour
by CJ | Mar 18, 2017 | Casino Sessions
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Casino : Treasury Brisbane
$300 buy in
1/2 table right side
SR6 (hook near dealer)
4 players (one newbie, 2 regulars and me)
3V set
My least favourite position. Still haven’t worked this one out.
However today it didn’t matter.
Only had 45 mins. Got the dice twice.
$66 inside working on the come out.
Both roles shot myself in the foot with seven on first roll.
7, 9, 3, 6, 10, 12, 3, 9
5, 9, 7
7, 6, 8, 10, 7
Terrible but no other spot opened up for me.
Good news though is I made money on the other regulars.
Playing my DP progression and $22 inside
One regular had a wonderful hand in the 20s (don’t track / chart others… yet)
So many inside numbers, high on the nines. And I had 9 up to $75. $300 profit in one hand. I was happy to finally make use of the press and take strategy I learned from this forum.
Clapped him after that roll, truely thankful.
There was one newbie and he was hopeless. Holding the dice both hands. Rubbing dice together with both hands. Taking the dice back over the rail out of sight. Throwing one dice at a time down to the end. Dealers were laughing, it was classic what not to do.
Colour in $569 (+$269) in 45 mins
by CJ | Mar 11, 2017 | Casino Sessions
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Casino : Treasury Brisbane
$350 buy in
1/2 table left side
SL 1
2 players (one newbie and me)
3V set (exclusively)
Had a plan today. And really wanted to stick to it.
Bet don’t pass exclusively with my progression and play $66 inside regardless of point working on the come out for 2 hits and regress to $22 inside and press up from there 1 unit twice and then 2 units to 5. Take and press from there.
Why did I set such a plan?
I looked at my rolls over previous weeks and after last weeks debacle with my progression promised myself after a week of practice to get it right this time.
Also betting purely don’t pass is like watching paint dry and you need some excitement.
I’m better than a random roller. At least I think so anyway. So may as well back yourself with the place numbers.
Good news is I was fully engaged at the table and the dealer and stick now had something to do.
The newbie who I suspect wasn’t a newbie at all, as he was pretending to not know the bets, but was throwing out hi lows and other fancy bets. Why pretend. Anyway he kept coming and going. And while he was losing I was winning.
He asked the dealers what was going on and said is he betting against me. They said yes. And it was on from there. Sniped him with 2 short rolls and he left for good.
Winning is more fun.
On the clock to get back to work and only had 1 hour.
Had a big chat with the dealers and the box man said the management are going to scrap craps from the Brisbane and Gold Coast casinos soon, so get my sessions in quick.
My next closest table is one and half hour plane flight to Sydney.
Colour in $577 (+227) in 1 hour.
Tracking of my DP bet only
Bet |
Result |
Balance |
10 |
L |
-10 |
20 |
W |
10 |
10 |
L |
0 |
20 |
L |
-20 |
30 |
W |
10 |
10 |
L |
0 |
20 |
W |
20 |
10 |
W |
30 |
20 |
W |
50 |
30 |
L |
20 |
40 |
L |
-20 |
50 |
W |
30 |
25 |
W |
55 |
10 |
W |
65 |
20 |
L |
45 |
30 |
L |
15 |
50 |
L |
-35 |
10 |
W |
-25 |
10 |
W |
-15 |
20 |
W |
5 |
30 |
W |
35 |
40 |
W |
75 |
50 |
L |
25 |
60 |
L |
-35 |
70 |
W |
35 |
10 |
L |
25 |
20 |
L |
5 |
30 |
W |
35 |
10 |
W |
45 |
This means of $227 win only $45 is from my DP progression. The rest is from my $66 inside for 2 hits, and regress to $22 and press up from there.
by CJ | Mar 5, 2017 | Casino Sessions, Podcast
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Casino : Treasury Brisbane
$300 buy in
Half table – Left side
SL-1
1 player (me)
3V equivalent set, and all sevens set while aiming for the 7.
Another session second week in a row where I was all alone. The dealers were just standing around doing nothing when I showed up.
I had in my head that I was going to concentrate on playing a totally Don’t game if it was just me at the table.
Set a point and then push the seven.
Alas what I thought was a perfect plan didn’t turn out that way.
Out of 16 hands. 7 with less than 4 throws. 43.75%
In order to play purely dark side this way I really think you need to have a strong ability to 7 out early. Something I definitely need to work on.
I did try to play right sight a couple of times once I felt my ability to go dark had left me, with $66 inside, with intent to do 3 hits and then regress to $22 and start pressing from there. That didn’t work either.
My throws from SL-1 were decent. And I found it very strange that a pit boss came over to watch me very intently for over 15 mins. There was no one else at the table, and I was only betting small on DP, with no other bets. I saw no reason for him to be so interested in me. Perhaps it was my recording my rolls in my little notepad? I didn’t let it bother me and kept setting, and then throwing as I had been the whole time. With no one else at the table and also losing and not winning, I felt wronged for having a pit boss scrutinise me.
Basically if I zigged the dice zagged. If I zagged the dice zigged.
Playing the DP not even bringing in the DC, the dealers were almost falling asleep.
I put out a stack of chips at one point for some place bets and the dealer didn’t even notice. I patiently waited and it got awkward. He finally realised that he actually had something to do, and was surprised that I was betting the numbers while doing a DP.
In the end my work time constraints kicked in, and the dealers are used to me know saying that I have to go back to work.
While I thoroughly enjoyed myself, having the table all to myself is such a treat, and doing another large session of 147 throws. Which is great for my practice and getting used to the table.
My final take away out of this session, is that I absolutely need more practice. Or really need to look at adjusting my betting instead of going in with a set play in mind and religiously following it when it clearly isn’t working as expected.
Colour in $133 (-$167) in 1 hour 15 mins
Addendum : I did have a plan to play a particular DP progression, but kept getting lost with it, which is ashame and another thing I need to work on.
After the fact, I can see via my charting, that I would have come out $70 ahead if I had of been able to stick to the plan I had.
These bets are only on the DP every single time. As a solo shooter without a PL or DP the dice don’t move.
Bet |
Result |
Balance |
10 |
W |
10 |
20 |
L |
-10 |
30 |
W |
20 |
10 |
L |
10 |
20 |
L |
-10 |
30 |
W |
20 |
10 |
L |
10 |
20 |
W |
30 |
10 |
L |
20 |
20 |
L |
0 |
30 |
W |
30 |
10 |
L |
20 |
20 |
L |
0 |
30 |
W |
30 |
10 |
W |
40 |
20 |
L |
20 |
30 |
L |
-10 |
60 |
W |
50 |
10 |
W |
60 |
20 |
W |
80 |
30 |
W |
110 |
40 |
L |
70 |
50 |
L |
20 |
100 |
W |
120 |
10 |
W |
130 |
20 |
W |
150 |
30 |
L |
120 |
40 |
W |
160 |
10 |
L |
150 |
20 |
W |
170 |
10 |
L |
160 |
20 |
L |
140 |
30 |
W |
170 |
10 |
W |
180 |
20 |
L |
160 |
30 |
L |
130 |
60 |
L |
70 |
10 |
L |
60 |
10 |
W |
70 |
by CJ | Feb 18, 2017 | Casino Sessions, Podcast
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Casino: Treasury Brisbane
$400 buy in
Half table – Right side
SR-1
1 player (me)
3V equivalent set
This was another session that I wasn’t expecting.
I’d been waiting for many weeks to get the table all to myself.
The first time this happened I was totally unprepared, and so nervous I was shaking.
Now was a different story. Just small nerves, which was good.
I was ready.
I don’t know what the normal amount of rolls are per hour, but I’m thinking it’s around 60.
By myself I managed to squeeze in 163 throws in around an hour.
I was powering through the throws and bets. And I apologised to the the dealers since it would be boring for them with they way I bet. But they said they were enjoying the relaxed work. Since I don’t prop bet it was super easy for them. Box man had nothing to do. Stick just collected the dice and brought them back to me without any fuss, and the dealer was enjoying the simple setup / press and take moves I use.
By the end of my session, I was worn out. But in a good way.
I got to try out all sorts of landing zones and throw adjustments. It was fantastic.
I also had success with DP $10 or DP $20 and then setting for 7 and hitting it. If I didn’t hit it and get my point instead then I’d switch over and run with it.
I didn’t realise until after the session and looking at my charting that I got a 34 role hand. My best yet.
But mostly I was betting light. I tried a couple of $66 inside that didn’t take. So I stuck with $22 inside and build up from there.
It was a great practice session, which I hope to do again.
Looking over my charts it would seem that I could have done very well if I had of backed myself at $66 inside each time.
I wish I had of started charting sooner. But I’m only 1 1/2 years into my craps journey, so I’m really happy with my progress.
At the end of my hand, one regular player came to table, and saw I was throwing from the dark side. He asked if the table was negative, and I said to join me. He actually did.
And we both played dark on his hand. $20 DP layed $40 odds on 10, and $10 DC, and we both didn’t play any other numbers. He rolled the 7 two rolls later, and we both celebrated. It was so refreshing to celebrate a roll ending 7 out loud and the dealers were laughing. I never get to celebrate the 7 since everyone else is usually on PL, and I’m not into sticking it in peoples faces when I win and they lose.
Had to return to work, otherwise could have stayed much longer.
Colour in $503 (+$103) in 1 hour 15 mins
by CJ | Feb 11, 2017 | Casino Sessions, Podcast
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Casino: Treasury Brisbane
$300 buy in
Half table – Right side
SR-1
2 – 4 players
3V equivalent set
From the outset this was a session like no other I’ve had to date. I walked into the Casino following my nose to the craps table on the second floor, turned the final corner and my heart sank. The craps table was gone and 2 Caribbean Stud tables were in it’s place. I thought WTF is going on here.
Looked around couldn’t see any sight of it. Asked a dealer on a roulette table with no one on it, and she didn’t know.
Walked around until I found a dealer on the floor that I recognised that regularly worked on the craps table, and he pointed me to a hole in the wall off the main gaming floor. They had just 3 days earlier moved the table into a small side room, like a craps pit someone might have at home. I don’t know if this is it’s last position before being dumped from the floor altogether, but I look at it as a step in the right direction as it’s less noisy and has a nice feel about it. Downside, it’s not visible and won’t attract attention. I’ll make sure to be inclusive to all new players that happen to find the room and get them onto the table.
The table had no drop box and had not been setup yet, so my small lunch time 1 hour window was dwindling. They said come back in an hour. Damn.
Thought what the hell, and went to play some Mini Baccarat. Won $17.50 and went and had lunch and went back to work.
I just couldn’t help myself though, I had to try out that new craps table.
The table had been given a new lease of life with a new black layout. Very nice. It even was not as spongy under the finger press test as it was before.
I took an early mark from work and gave myself 1 extra hour to have a game of craps.
The dealers seemed much happier with the new table location as did the players, including myself.
Did the old one hit can’t miss play ($10 DP, $6 six and eight) on others, and was really itching to get started on my own game. With my trusty little notebook and small casino grade pencil at the ready, it was on… (not).
I promised myself I would try Heavy‘s $66 inside play, and I mentioned to a craps player (new youtuber Marc – search for Full Press Craps) that I would work my place bets on the come out.
With all my variables turned upside down already, I couldn’t include the $66 inside working on the come out play, I’ll save that for another session.
Long story short, I couldn’t get it going at all today. So embarrassing. Nothing past 6 rolls.
10, 10
4, 5, 5, 7 ($44 inside)
3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 12, 7 ($66 inside took 3 hits and regress to $22 inside)
5, 7 ($66 inside)
10, 7 ($44 inside)
10, 6, 4, 4, 2, 8, 7 ($66 inside)
I’m still going through the session revisiting my throw and what I could do differently next week. I’ve got some ideas to try. The table is not as bouncy, and you can hear the dice a little bit as they hit the table. Never could before.
I actually got so frustrated that I stopped betting for a bit, and thought I’d try a few field bets (cringe) while waiting and looking for field twins to show with a Fibonacci negative progression. If a field hits then make a bet looking for the twin repeat. I worked my way up to $50 on field and lost that one as well and didn’t have the balls to pony up for the next bet. However as it turns out, if I had of made that bet on the next field twin, it would have won, and I would have dropped back to $10 then I would have kicked into my positive progression, and the guy rolled 6 fields in a row after that twin reversal. That would have been a very nice progressive field run.
Jeez, it was just one of those sessions.
Colour in $64 (-$236) in 1 hour